1 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,479 How are you feeling? 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,620 Did you catch up on the episode? 3 00:00:16,059 --> 00:00:17,640 It's not fun for me to watch. 4 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:18,940 I know, yeah. 5 00:00:19,860 --> 00:00:21,360 Too many snakes in the grass. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,540 Welcome to your first reunion. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,540 I brought water. I'm going to do a lot of talking. I got a lot to say. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,879 How are you feeling? 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,340 Yeah, I feel good. I'm just anxious to get into glam, you know. Yeah, yeah, 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,239 yeah. 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,380 I brought you a reunion present. Oh, that is so nice. 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,180 Whose crystals are outside? 13 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:49,200 Mine. They're charging in the sun. 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Kyle. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,860 We're doing this again. 16 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:54,360 Fourteen dimes. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Look what I got. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Look what I got. I'm going to need it. 19 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:02,460 Girl, oh my God. I'm excited. 20 00:01:02,780 --> 00:01:04,180 Yeah. And then I'm also a little nervous. 21 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:08,840 Normal. What do you make of the viewers thinking there's a double standard in 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,780 terms of what you expect others to share versus what you share? 23 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:14,940 What do we think from Garcelle's life? And Sutton. 24 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:17,510 I mean, like, her sustainability line, cool. 25 00:01:18,970 --> 00:01:20,130 Have you spoken to anybody? 26 00:01:21,450 --> 00:01:27,190 TMZ caught me coming out of the airport, and they were like, so Kyle says you 27 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:28,190 guys are good. 28 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:32,130 Are we? 29 00:01:33,370 --> 00:01:34,370 Hi, Dory. 30 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:35,770 Hi, Andy. 31 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:37,510 How are you feeling about today? 32 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:41,410 I don't want to leave here tonight thinking, oh, shoot, I wish I said that. 33 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:43,260 Leave nothing on the table. That's right. 34 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:44,399 Is that the expression? 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,840 I think we're leaving it all on the stage. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Leave it all on the stage. Yes. Okay. I love it. All right. No yawn. 37 00:01:50,060 --> 00:01:51,060 Wow. 38 00:01:56,260 --> 00:01:59,360 Hey, Dorit. I told me you were late. I'm waiting for you. 39 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:00,620 Well, let's do it. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Look at you ladies. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,060 Wow. She's a mermaid. Oh, my God. 42 00:02:06,340 --> 00:02:08,620 Beautiful Dorit. Thank you. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,340 How big is that, Erica? 44 00:02:10,740 --> 00:02:12,900 I don't know. It's some random designer I had made. 45 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:14,840 Okay. All right. 46 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:16,560 Look at us on the end. 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,900 How happy are you to be at the end? Hell yeah. I'm going to have a cocktail 48 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:20,900 right here. 49 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:24,980 Hi. You look beautiful, Kyle. Thank you. Everybody looks gorgeous. I love your 50 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:26,380 hair. Everybody looks gorgeous. 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Hi, both. 52 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:31,140 Hi, Kyle. How are you? I'm good. 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,540 At all. 54 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:35,239 She's good. 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,700 Here we go. Quiet on set, please. 56 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Right there? Okay. 57 00:02:42,350 --> 00:02:46,830 Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 14 58 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:51,430 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen. Tonight, I want to welcome you ladies back to the 59 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:53,790 tropical paradise of St. 60 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:56,010 Lucia. Hi, Kyle. 61 00:02:56,230 --> 00:03:01,770 Hi, Andy. Now, I just noticed that you brought something here. Are these? 62 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:02,990 Yes. Yes. 63 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:03,969 Mm -hmm. 64 00:03:03,970 --> 00:03:07,450 These are your crystals? These are my crystals. And these will do what today? 65 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:10,650 Bring me strength and clarity. 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Okay. Maybe help calm me down a little bit. All right. So I don't end up in the 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,460 hospital like Sutton did last year. No, we're not doing that. 68 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:19,900 Okay. Hi, Erica. 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,980 Hey. Couldn't believe our ears when we heard your song, Drip, in the movie, 70 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Anora. Yeah. 71 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:31,160 Congratulations. Thank you. I'm a feature on this song, and the movie won 72 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,200 d 'Or, and now it's up for Best Movie. 73 00:03:34,019 --> 00:03:35,160 Amazing. That's great. 74 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:37,560 Yeah, I know. It's wild, right? Yeah. Hey, Garcelle. 75 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:38,860 Hey, Andy. 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Congratulations on Baby Valley. 77 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:41,900 Thank you. 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Is it true that LVP is in the running for godmother? She wants to be. Is 79 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,740 still working for her? Yeah. Yeah? 80 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:50,940 Wow. Hey, Sutton. 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,480 Hi. Great to see you. Nice to see you. You know Kathy's coming out later. Well. 82 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:59,280 I need to find the leftover cards from last year's reunion that we didn't get 83 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,280 to. Oh. 84 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:02,480 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hi, Bose. 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Hello. 86 00:04:03,829 --> 00:04:04,950 Great first season. 87 00:04:05,150 --> 00:04:07,710 Thank you. How are you feeling coming into your first reunion? 88 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:08,929 I feel great. 89 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:10,390 I mean, this is exciting. 90 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:13,090 I've had a great time. Said none of us ever. 91 00:04:13,870 --> 00:04:14,870 Ever. 92 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:17,529 Maybe it's because I know I'm right about everything. 93 00:04:18,610 --> 00:04:19,610 Hey, Dorit. 94 00:04:19,730 --> 00:04:23,610 Hello, Andy. Great to see you. Good to see you as well. Very cool seeing you in 95 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:25,490 the pages of British Vogue. No. 96 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:29,770 Was that everything you thought it would be? Could ever wish for. Yes. 97 00:04:30,460 --> 00:04:34,720 That's great. It's a real moment. Before we dive into everything, anyone have 98 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,920 any intentions they want to set for the day? Well, my intention is just to leave 99 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,920 here today feeling better than when I arrived. Okay. Yeah, I hope we can talk 100 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,500 things through, work them out, and at the end of the day, we actually get a 101 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,220 photo this reunion. 102 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Yeah, last year we did not. The last two years, I don't think we did. I 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,320 apologize. 104 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Okay. Well, as Dorit faced mounting pressure from her shocking separation, 105 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,520 entire life changed in an instant. 106 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:09,460 The PK -loving, Chanel -toting Dorit of the past has left the building and a 107 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:14,340 cigarette -smoking, table -lunging force to be reckoned with has taken her 108 00:05:14,340 --> 00:05:16,040 place. Let's see how that went. 109 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,920 As I stand here tonight welcoming our friends and family, it's an opportunity 110 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,360 for me to confess publicly. 111 00:05:24,620 --> 00:05:27,060 Baby. It's you, baby, and you alone. 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,400 I love you, baby. 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,240 PK and I have agreed to separate. 114 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,020 We have had our struggles over the past few years and continue to work through 115 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:41,780 them. They've made the mutual and difficult decision to take some time 116 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:43,820 It's always bad. 117 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:48,040 He's a full -blown alcoholic. 118 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:52,220 What happened? 119 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:54,000 I'll tell you what happened. I got sober. 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,620 One of my biggest issues, if not the biggest, is the way PK would speak to 121 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:02,700 I used to call him the monster. 122 00:06:03,620 --> 00:06:06,760 I always saw Dorit as wearing the pants in that relationship. 123 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:11,540 Is Dorit taking advantage of this moment that she can paint a picture of who PK 124 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:13,080 is and he's not here to defend himself? 125 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,720 I think he's a very good father. Am I correct? 126 00:06:17,020 --> 00:06:18,020 Wrong. 127 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:22,480 Well... What is he doing? 128 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:23,900 Right. Well... 129 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:28,090 He just wrote this really angry, horrible note. 130 00:06:28,810 --> 00:06:33,270 What? What's in it? What did it say? Just finances, and I'm going to stop 131 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:36,050 this, and you're going to be liable for this. Where are we going with this? 132 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:37,330 Honey, that's a divorce. 133 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:39,410 Get a lawyer. 134 00:06:40,170 --> 00:06:41,170 You got to get out. 135 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:42,610 I know this. 136 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:45,830 If I have to go to war, I will go to war. 137 00:06:47,650 --> 00:06:51,680 Okay, well, let's... First talk about the cigarette that launched 1 ,000 138 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:58,300 Dori, the viewers loved seeing you smoking. Oh, my god. In the car. That's 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,440 Really wild. I would have never, ever, ever guessed that one. Have you been a 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,440 smoker for a while? 141 00:07:03,580 --> 00:07:05,820 Oh, see, we're going to go there, huh? Sure, why not? 142 00:07:06,340 --> 00:07:10,790 I... Have been a social smoker. Uh -huh. And I think that especially the last 143 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:15,050 few years. Right. With what's been going on. Turned into a stress smoker. Yeah. 144 00:07:15,090 --> 00:07:18,270 Stress smoker. Yeah. Stress smoker. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? 145 00:07:18,490 --> 00:07:21,370 Yeah. You never thought that would be seen. Because when we have the car cams. 146 00:07:21,370 --> 00:07:24,870 You know. We're going to use this. I assume everything is going to be seen. 147 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:28,310 Exactly. I assume everything is going to be seen. 148 00:07:28,570 --> 00:07:31,490 I just was in a place where I didn't give a. 149 00:07:31,730 --> 00:07:32,730 Right. Well. 150 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:34,910 Kyle, did PK send you a meme about it? 151 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Oh, damn. Wow. We got a lot of comments about your decision not to tell the 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,300 children about the separation. 153 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:46,240 After Jagger saw or heard about your Instagram post, were you regretting your 154 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,120 decision not to sit down with them? No, I have not regretted my decision, not 155 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,099 for one second. 156 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:52,100 What do they know now? 157 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:56,980 You know, they are not asking the questions. 158 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:03,320 So I think that when they see PK and I friendly, and there's peace, and we're 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,880 happy, They're OK. 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,540 Last year on the After Show, Sutton explained that while her kids knew she 161 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:14,440 Christian were separated, that you still elected not to tell the kids that he 162 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,420 hadn't filed for divorce for an entire year. Is that hypocritical then? 163 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,420 Is it? Well, right. I think learning from my own mistakes. 164 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:25,320 You view that as a mistake? 165 00:08:25,580 --> 00:08:28,420 Oh, yeah. Got it. Yeah. Why? What were the consequences? 166 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:33,570 Um, there's not so much consequences. I think just being really honest with your 167 00:08:33,570 --> 00:08:40,049 children, that's what I, that's how I am now, so that they trust me implicitly. 168 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:44,310 Is there a part of you that's not telling them because you're hopeful that 169 00:08:44,310 --> 00:08:49,450 you'll get back together? No, I promise you. More recently, I see less and less 170 00:08:49,450 --> 00:08:50,409 of a chance. 171 00:08:50,410 --> 00:08:51,570 Is it something you would want? 172 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:54,450 Not as is. 173 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:55,930 Are you still in love with him? 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Yeah. You are. 175 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,860 He's my soul. He's my blood. He's my heart. 176 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,480 And I hate that because it makes it so much more difficult. But I also know I 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,480 need peace. 178 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,540 We asked PK if he wanted to appear today. 179 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:17,439 I know. 180 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,440 He declined. 181 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,640 I know. 182 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:20,860 He sent a statement. 183 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:22,200 Did he? He did. 184 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,840 We asked PK if he wanted to appear today. I know he declined. 185 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,420 I know he sent a statement. 186 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:38,860 Did he? He did. 187 00:09:43,370 --> 00:09:47,330 That I was invited to be part of the reunion, but declined because I don't 188 00:09:47,330 --> 00:09:50,950 believe engaging with Dorit in this forum would be constructive. 189 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:56,150 Dorit has made several mischaracterizations about me, but the 190 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:58,170 is the claim that I am a bad father. 191 00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:02,430 That statement is both heartbreaking and false. It is deeply hurtful to me, and 192 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:06,230 more importantly, to our children, who despite Dorit's assertion, will 193 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:10,610 inevitably see and hear all of this at a time not of our choosing. 194 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:15,030 Those closest to us know the truth. Many have wanted to speak out, but I have 195 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:19,850 asked them not to because the truth should never need a champion. I refuse 196 00:10:19,850 --> 00:10:22,250 stoke a fire I did not ignite. 197 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:27,630 The Dorit I married would never have allowed this, much less caused it. That 198 00:10:27,630 --> 00:10:30,610 woman embodied kindness, integrity, and grace. 199 00:10:30,910 --> 00:10:35,970 I can only hope this version of Dorit finds her way back to the person she 200 00:10:35,970 --> 00:10:36,970 was. 201 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:42,030 PK, he could have been here. 202 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:48,080 He could have. And I was supportive of it. I said, I don't want to be in a 203 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,340 position where it is, you know, only one side is being heard. He keeps saying 204 00:10:53,340 --> 00:10:54,340 you've changed. 205 00:10:54,380 --> 00:11:00,340 He refers very pointedly in that statement to the old version of you 206 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:03,060 new version of you. What is the difference? 207 00:11:03,260 --> 00:11:07,480 Listen, if I haven't changed in 14 years, then something's wrong with me. 208 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,340 Part of your shtick is the clothes and the glam. 209 00:11:12,010 --> 00:11:14,650 And all that. And you love it. And it makes you happy. 210 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:17,410 Was that a point of contention with him? 211 00:11:17,650 --> 00:11:20,210 Yeah. Yeah. I think at some point, yes. 212 00:11:21,050 --> 00:11:23,630 Again, but that's not the driving force. 213 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:27,530 You know, he loves all of this. He loves when people come up and they ask for a 214 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:29,830 picture. Did your fame change him? 215 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:32,110 I don't know if change is the word. 216 00:11:32,330 --> 00:11:34,210 I don't think either one. Is he insecure about it? 217 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:36,890 Yes. I think he's a very insecure. 218 00:11:37,610 --> 00:11:39,550 I don't know. Maybe. 219 00:11:41,870 --> 00:11:45,830 I guess it's hard for me sometimes to see things in a certain way, maybe if I 220 00:11:45,830 --> 00:11:49,270 took a step back and looked at it, but, you know, you never want to think that 221 00:11:49,270 --> 00:11:50,270 way about your husband. 222 00:11:51,010 --> 00:11:54,030 Kyle, do you think fame has changed Dorit? 223 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:57,330 I think this season I saw Dorit that I didn't know. 224 00:11:57,810 --> 00:12:01,730 I mean, I think you perhaps would even agree with that yourself. 225 00:12:02,190 --> 00:12:04,250 I mean... Well, I mean, listen... What's different? 226 00:12:05,790 --> 00:12:10,250 I think everything seemed different. I mean, she seemed... Of course, it was... 227 00:12:10,910 --> 00:12:14,710 She seemed a lot more aggressive than usual. 228 00:12:14,970 --> 00:12:18,290 I think we just saw a very different, I don't think it was a different side to 229 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:23,130 her because I feel like I know her so well. I felt like maybe circumstantial, 230 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:25,030 whatever it was, it was a different Dorit. 231 00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:29,770 Dorit, you confided in Kyle about PK's temper. 232 00:12:30,070 --> 00:12:33,250 You even went as far as calling him the monster. 233 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,790 Kyle, we got a lot of tweets about your response. 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,360 to this admission. 235 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,140 Noopaloop777 on Twitter said, Kyle's saying she's never seen that side of PK, 236 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:46,820 maybe Dorit is just exaggerating to manipulate her side of the story. Feels 237 00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:49,800 similar to people undermining domestic abuse victims. 238 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,180 It's definitely one of the things that hurt me the most, Kyle, watching that. 239 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,960 You're supposed to know me way better than you know him, because you only have 240 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:04,060 relationship where you have memes and jokes, and you certainly don't know him 241 00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:07,640 well. So you not having seen that wouldn't be unusual. 242 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,120 I think I was coming from the place that he wasn't there to defend himself. 243 00:13:14,380 --> 00:13:17,800 And you hear something like this, like, he's an alcoholic. 244 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,240 He's a bad dad. 245 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:22,300 Now we're hearing monster. I'm thinking all these things. I didn't claim that 246 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:25,980 he's an alcoholic. He was very open about it. You said it on camera, though, 247 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:26,759 number of times. 248 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,000 And he had said it before that. 249 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,460 But not on camera. 250 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:30,920 He had said it publicly. 251 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,720 But my point, no, he said he would stop drinking, right? 252 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,020 But he didn't say, he didn't use the word alcoholic. That was the first time 253 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:40,060 heard it when you said it. To me, it looked like you were throwing your 254 00:13:40,060 --> 00:13:41,060 under the bus. 255 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,680 It was right out of the gate. And you kept repeating it over and over and 256 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:51,880 Well, it looked that way, but I was, it was a week, and I was talking to 257 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,880 different people. 258 00:13:53,380 --> 00:13:57,280 But when you had said that in your confessional, we were talking about my 259 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,100 in our marriage and the separation. 260 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:01,880 You diminished it, like... 261 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,420 oh, maybe she's just taking this opportunity to paint him in a bad light. 262 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:09,260 you have to think about where I was in that moment because I felt like you were 263 00:14:09,260 --> 00:14:12,160 exaggerating a lot of things about me. Really? So then when I saw those 264 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,140 about PK, I was like, maybe she's exaggerating that. What did I exaggerate 265 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:18,600 you? I think we're going to get into that. We'll get to that. Well, just 266 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,360 because, you know, at the top of your mind, I don't want you to forget. I'm 267 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,400 curious what I exaggerated. 268 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,640 When you acted so upset at Sutton, you didn't even know I had sent PK a text 269 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,240 yet. I wasn't even talking about the text. By the way, I also sent you a text 270 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,240 that was never acknowledged. 271 00:14:31,580 --> 00:14:36,900 Kyle, you sent PK a text first, okay? You only sent me a text because Erica 272 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:41,960 you you should send it. Can we show the scene? I just jumped off the FaceTime 273 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,580 with her, and I asked her had anybody reached out, and she said no. Okay, I'm 274 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:49,620 sending it then. I wrote it last night. I don't like that. I do not like that no 275 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:53,000 one has reached out to her. You and I weren't even speaking, but I still sent 276 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,940 the text. Because I actually cared about you and felt bad that you guys were 277 00:14:55,940 --> 00:14:59,020 separated. But you chose to see the worst in the situation. 278 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,700 Kyle, you keep missing the whole text message thing. Is this about you 279 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:06,500 justifying the text message thing? Did you reach out to Dorit? 280 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:10,880 No, I didn't. Did you? No, and I know why I didn't. Okay, nobody else did. 281 00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:15,180 Instead of saying none of these women did, but Kyle did. No, the whole season 282 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:18,680 was never mentioned to them that they never reached out to her. It was all... 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Kyle, we were talking about the fact that you sent him a text before me. 284 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,599 All right. 285 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Let's move on. How long has he been sober now? 286 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:37,740 It's not a topic we discuss, as I've 287 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:39,880 discovered very recently. 288 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,300 OK. So I couldn't answer that. 289 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,380 So? He's not sober. 290 00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:51,520 He's drinking again, and you don't want to say that. 291 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:54,660 I have no idea. 292 00:15:55,220 --> 00:16:00,360 His exact words are, it's something I'm choosing not to discuss with you. 293 00:16:00,820 --> 00:16:01,820 Okay. 294 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:04,820 Do you have concerns? 295 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,500 Huge. Huge. 296 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,960 Big, and in fact, in that moment, I said, the way you're making me feel in 297 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,700 moment, I don't think I can have a relationship with you. 298 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Even a friendship. 299 00:16:19,069 --> 00:16:25,490 That was less than a week ago, and I stand by it, Andy. 300 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:27,610 Is that my living room table? 301 00:16:28,650 --> 00:16:33,210 Hold on. These things, this is the way my mind works. 302 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:37,750 Sutton, you've had a lot of opinions about PK and Dory's finances. 303 00:16:38,730 --> 00:16:43,010 If they divorce, what do you think the forensic accountants will find? 304 00:16:43,510 --> 00:16:48,030 I don't know. Those forensic accountants will get you. Are you worried for her? 305 00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:53,440 Yeah. You have to actually care about someone, have compassion, like someone, 306 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,180 be worried about them. I just worry for all women, I think. 307 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,980 Yeah, it's true. Whose name is on the mortgage? 308 00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:05,319 Do you know that? Do you really think I'm going to sit here and answer any 309 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,980 questions that you're asking me? It's about your knowledge. 310 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:09,460 I'm talking about you. 311 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:14,160 I'm talking about you supporting women. I'm talking about you having compassion 312 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,900 for women. Listen. It's not about. 313 00:17:16,349 --> 00:17:19,550 All I can say is this. Whose name is on the mortgage? Well, you should know. You 314 00:17:19,550 --> 00:17:22,690 said you're worried. You should know. If you're worried for me. You know what 315 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:23,329 surprised me? 316 00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:27,329 When I got divorced, I had two baseball teams. You have to actually care about 317 00:17:27,329 --> 00:17:28,550 someone. That surprised me. 318 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:32,810 That's a nice surprise. It's a nice surprise. But, you know, I had a lot of 319 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:37,010 things that surprised me. And I think that communication in a marriage is so 320 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:39,910 important. I agree. Is the house under foreclosure? 321 00:17:40,170 --> 00:17:43,510 No. Why have there been reports that it is? 322 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:47,790 Well, there were reports that it was in pre -foreclosure. I had no idea about 323 00:17:47,790 --> 00:17:52,270 it. He told me that they changed the rate. He was trying to get a hold of 324 00:17:52,270 --> 00:17:55,510 somebody. No one's returning his calls. That's the way he does business. 325 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:57,910 Until they give him his call back, he's not going to pay. 326 00:17:58,850 --> 00:18:00,170 So that's how you lose a house. 327 00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:02,450 He resolved it. Listen, they ended up calling. 328 00:18:03,310 --> 00:18:04,310 That's what he said. 329 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:08,530 Doreen, what is the status of your marriage, and how often are you 330 00:18:08,890 --> 00:18:10,210 As of a week ago. 331 00:18:10,830 --> 00:18:15,190 Um, I've chosen not to have much of a relationship with him. Well, you have to 332 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:16,089 co -parent. 333 00:18:16,090 --> 00:18:18,470 Exactly. How often is he seeing the kids? 334 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:25,030 He sees them on Saturday, Saturday night, if he's in town. 335 00:18:26,130 --> 00:18:27,190 Are you scared? 336 00:18:27,910 --> 00:18:28,930 I'm not scared. 337 00:18:29,290 --> 00:18:30,970 I'm hurt. I'm sad. 338 00:18:32,190 --> 00:18:35,050 I think I'm realizing more and more each day that... 339 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:42,170 What I really believed was going to be my future may not be. 340 00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:46,750 And I think that realization is really hard. 341 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:49,030 Is your heart broken? 342 00:18:49,390 --> 00:18:51,110 Oh, in a million pieces. 343 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:53,390 A million pieces. 344 00:18:56,530 --> 00:18:57,530 Sorry. 345 00:19:01,650 --> 00:19:02,650 Coming up. 346 00:19:03,150 --> 00:19:06,850 If you think for one second that there was something she could say to me which 347 00:19:06,850 --> 00:19:11,350 would influence my opinion of you, then that means you don't think very much of 348 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:12,350 yourself. 349 00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:18,510 When things get bad, I'm just going to look over there. 350 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:21,570 That would give me some happiness and joy. 351 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:27,550 I can't touch you because I'm going to get stuck to you. You can touch me, but 352 00:19:27,550 --> 00:19:30,190 can't touch you. Next to Michael Jackson's glove. 353 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:34,280 I can't even make a phone call. 354 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:37,020 Five, four, three. 355 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:41,000 We're back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. 356 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:46,100 This year, we met new housewife, Bose, a high -powered executive who moved 357 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:50,800 quickly up the corporate ladder and even faster in her relationship with Keeley. 358 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,000 But some people here thought she should add one more credit to her uber 359 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 -impressive resume, Dorit's spokesperson. 360 00:19:58,140 --> 00:19:59,240 Let's take a look. 361 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:00,500 Thanks, Garcelle. 362 00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:09,090 And I mean that food from the cup in my hand to the tip of my shoe. 363 00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:11,290 Oh, hello. 364 00:20:15,930 --> 00:20:17,210 Bo's is the real deal. 365 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:22,070 She has been an executive with Netflix, Uber, Apple. 366 00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:23,810 Trill to meet you, boss. 367 00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:26,230 Bo's. Bo's. She's saying the boss. 368 00:20:26,550 --> 00:20:29,150 I'll take it. I'll take that. What is this? 369 00:20:29,490 --> 00:20:31,590 I told you I got this, okay? 370 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:32,830 Huey's my man. 371 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:38,090 We've been dating for several months. We are moving faster than the speed of 372 00:20:38,090 --> 00:20:39,690 light. What am I looking at? 373 00:20:39,910 --> 00:20:41,850 Okay, so this is your womb. Yes, okay. 374 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:46,130 And that's the right ovary. Oh. And this dark circle is an egg house. 375 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:50,810 Oh. Keely and I have talked about having a baby who actually never says the 376 00:20:50,810 --> 00:20:53,070 words I love you to each other. Wait a minute. What? 377 00:20:54,190 --> 00:20:57,630 Dorit is an embryo up your coochie. Girl. 378 00:20:58,150 --> 00:21:02,030 It seems to me when Dorit and Boze are together, it's just them. 379 00:21:02,570 --> 00:21:03,570 And then there's us. 380 00:21:03,690 --> 00:21:05,070 Why is everybody over there? 381 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:09,730 Because. Do we need to go over there? To congregate here at the front. It's like 382 00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:13,030 Dorit is hosting a party. Stop being Dorit's spokesperson. 383 00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:17,050 Once again, Bose is Team Dorit without knowing any backstory. 384 00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:19,250 It just seeps. 385 00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:21,470 Dorit, talking badly about us. 386 00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:23,370 And grow up. 387 00:21:24,430 --> 00:21:26,290 Mm -hmm. All right. 388 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:30,420 You strike me as the type of person who does her homework, doesn't come in 389 00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:35,220 unprepared. Right. Did you watch the show beforehand or did you come in sight 390 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:37,060 unseen? Yeah, I watched the show beforehand. 391 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,360 What was the difference between watching and being on it? That was a big 392 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:44,280 difference. I mean, watching it, you don't know the intricacies, you know, 393 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,960 have to be totally honest that I thought that some of the relationships maybe 394 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,740 played up, maybe the, you know, emotion or anger or sad feelings, whatever, were 395 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:54,960 perhaps exaggerated. 396 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:02,560 And? But they're very real. The amount of time that we spend together is really 397 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,880 intense, you know? And so you are automatically going to feel strongly 398 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,900 somebody's life just because you're talking about it all of the time. 399 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:18,240 Boze, I was so sad to hear that you lost your house in Malibu in the fires. 400 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,640 Thank you. I don't know what to say. It's still hard to... 401 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,940 articulate. I think after all the news headlines go away and the 402 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,160 you're just left with the ashes of a house and trying to figure out how to 403 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:42,260 the debris off of the land and fighting insurance companies and trying to figure 404 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:44,920 out whether or not you're going to rebuild. 405 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,319 What did it? 406 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,080 mean to you or signify to you? Oh, my gosh. 25 years of hard work. Yeah, it 407 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,860 meant a lot. I mean, look, no one has ever given me anything. And so losing 408 00:22:55,860 --> 00:23:00,600 house in this fashion is beyond devastating. 409 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,040 That's terrible. 410 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Yeah. I'm so sorry. 411 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:04,860 Thank you, Andy. 412 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:06,460 All right. 413 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,400 Moving on to your love life, what's the latest with you and Keely? 414 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,100 We're great. I mean, you know, it's so funny. I've also been very shocked by 415 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,460 response to our relationship. 416 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,500 What response have you gotten to your relationship? 417 00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:24,100 Oh, it's been such a mixed bag, you know? Some people think that there's a 418 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,160 of red flags. Some people think it's great. 419 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:30,680 Some people question the fact that at that time, we hadn't said we loved each 420 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,479 other yet. 421 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,420 Have you said you love each other? Yes. Lord have mercy. Thank God. We have said 422 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:37,800 we love each other. Thank God. Exactly. 423 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,240 I went right into a group chat. Was that a red flag to any of you? 424 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:43,170 You saw me sitting across. 425 00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:47,750 I was like, wait a second. We're talking kids, but the words I love you, we 426 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:51,970 can't procreate before we, like, profess our love. I wanted the red flag, but I 427 00:23:51,970 --> 00:23:53,130 wasn't thinking about it. 428 00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:57,270 Sutton, you told both in Malibu you found it suspicious that Keely had never 429 00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:59,030 been married or had children before. 430 00:23:59,370 --> 00:24:02,230 We've been dating for almost seven months. 431 00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:03,249 He has children. 432 00:24:03,250 --> 00:24:04,690 He's never, no children, never married. 433 00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:05,910 Oh. 434 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:10,310 You kind of want to flag it. 435 00:24:10,830 --> 00:24:11,749 Oh, my God. 436 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:13,030 Do you stand by that? 437 00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:16,590 Well, you know, me and dating never goes that well. 438 00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:22,670 You know, men, it just makes me so nervous when men haven't been married 439 00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:25,450 they're, like, approaching 50. Because I'm like, do you have commitment issues? 440 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:27,830 That was all I meant by that. 441 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:29,070 I've never been married. 442 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:30,250 Well, and look at you. 443 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Oh, damn. 444 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,220 No, but do you want to be married? I have commitment issues. 445 00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:36,800 Oh, Lord. 446 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,520 There's been a lot of talk about your fertility journey. 447 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,640 Yeah. Olivia from St. Louis said, I'm confused. Bozeman Keely haven't even 448 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,540 I love you yet, but she's willing to literally risk her life to get pregnant 449 00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:49,800 again. What is the latest update? 450 00:24:50,020 --> 00:24:53,840 Are you retrieving eggs? 451 00:24:54,140 --> 00:24:57,500 Yes. I'm in the process of that right now. That's great. Here's the other 452 00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,240 about this, which is it's... 453 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,180 It has been a little frustrating to me to hear other people's opinions about my 454 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:05,320 hopes and dreams and desires. 455 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Yeah. You know, where I'm just like, how dare you poo -poo my dream? 456 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:14,020 You know, because the transparent thing about it all is that I have been 457 00:25:14,020 --> 00:25:18,920 terrified to say I want another kid for 16 years because of what I went through. 458 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,580 So considering this has been a big deal for me and something I feel very 459 00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:25,580 vulnerable about. 460 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:29,730 And that's between me and God and Keely. And we've got to figure that out. 461 00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:35,510 Turning to what many found to be kind of an unlikely friendship, you could say 462 00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:36,510 bosom buddies. 463 00:25:36,690 --> 00:25:37,950 What drew you two together? 464 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:41,310 I think just time and space and opportunity. 465 00:25:41,650 --> 00:25:45,250 I do have to say, though, that I really appreciated when I met with Garcelle 466 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:49,730 before we started filming. And I asked her. I was trying to get the tea on 467 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:50,730 everybody. 468 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:55,290 She said she wouldn't share because she said that she wanted my relationships to 469 00:25:55,290 --> 00:25:58,770 be my relationships, which I respected because I was like, girl, tell me all 470 00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:01,570 things I want to hear about. You know what I mean? And she wouldn't share it. 471 00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:05,870 And so I respected that. So when I came to Sutton's party, I think I was 472 00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:11,630 inspired by Garcelle's directive to be open to everyone. 473 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:16,890 And I think just basically what happened is that Dorit was open as well. 474 00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:21,830 Kyle said Dorit is so all over Bose's ass, it's actually gross. 475 00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:26,590 Garcelle said Dorit was an embryo up Bose's coochie. 476 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:29,670 Dorit, how did you feel when you heard those comments? 477 00:26:30,770 --> 00:26:32,990 It was a little pathetic. 478 00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:37,650 Bose said on the after show that Sutton and Garcelle were jealous. Perhaps some 479 00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:41,650 jealousy, you know, that I would find any interest. 480 00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:46,550 in Dorit, given that perhaps I'm not finding as much interest in them? 481 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:50,950 Absolutely not. The only time I really had a problem with it was when we were 482 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:54,450 Oceanside and you guys were talking and we were left. 483 00:26:54,990 --> 00:26:56,610 out of it for like an hour. 484 00:26:56,950 --> 00:27:02,050 Everybody has different timing on how they deal with things. Could it be that 485 00:27:02,050 --> 00:27:03,430 he's coming to some realization? 486 00:27:04,150 --> 00:27:05,149 Definitely could be. 487 00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:07,410 Are we not included in this conversation? 488 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:09,150 I don't know what's going on. 489 00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:14,890 Can I tell you, if you run the tape for the past five years, everybody had an 490 00:27:14,890 --> 00:27:17,250 issue with us being friends. So it's not like crazy. 491 00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:18,550 Diana, 492 00:27:19,090 --> 00:27:20,009 that's kind of crazy. 493 00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:21,010 Are you her bodyguard? 494 00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:24,250 I'm glad you have Cherie because I think Sutton is a liability for you. 495 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,840 Really? If people had an issue with you two being friends, then wouldn't you 496 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720 say, well, you know what, I'm not going to engage in that. Yeah, but I didn't go 497 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,260 on and on about it, about like, oh, my God, how are they friends? Oh, my God, 498 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:36,340 how are they getting along? 499 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,260 What do they have in common? But there were many times you did that. 500 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Constantly. I didn't do all that. That was done to us. 501 00:27:43,780 --> 00:27:47,240 Look, you're stuck together. Exactly. You're stuck together. I'm trying to put 502 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240 my hands to my face. 503 00:27:52,969 --> 00:27:58,450 But anyways, no, but to be completely honest, if I said stuff, I don't. I'm 504 00:27:58,450 --> 00:28:00,030 you have a friend in both. 505 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:03,650 You're happy for Dorit that she has a friend? 506 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:05,230 Yes. 507 00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:08,570 This is the thing that rubbed me the wrong way about the entire conversation, 508 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:09,890 which was that there was. 509 00:28:10,780 --> 00:28:13,620 absolutely a belief that I was being manipulated. 510 00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:16,420 That annoyed me to no end. 511 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,720 But I find that to be absolutely ridiculous. What did you say? I did not 512 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800 she was being manipulated. I'm like, how would I be manipulated? 513 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,220 And also, I was like, that's insulting to me. I was like, if you think for one 514 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:32,220 second that there was something she could say to me which would influence my 515 00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:35,460 opinion of you, then that means you don't think very much of yourself. 516 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,120 That's what I interpreted. 517 00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:43,330 And I'm going to leave it there and take a break. We'll be back with more after 518 00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:44,330 that. 519 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:46,590 Coming up. Do you know something? 520 00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:48,610 I wish you were more interesting, I guess. 521 00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:49,910 Oh, damn. 522 00:28:57,070 --> 00:29:00,390 Welcome back to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. 523 00:29:01,230 --> 00:29:05,350 Well, when Garcelle isn't busy calling the shots on Setter at home, she's 524 00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:08,810 calling it like she sees it, and no one is safe. 525 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,460 Not even her bestie Sutton. Watch. 526 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:18,740 If you told me when I was a little girl that I would grow up to have the life 527 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,639 that I have. 528 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Wow. 529 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:22,340 Look at that house. 530 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,700 There's no way I would believe you. You are a beacon. Look what you've done with 531 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:28,459 your life. 532 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:29,560 Way to go, Garcelle. 533 00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:31,920 God made me cry. 534 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,840 I'm having a hard time figuring out what's next. 535 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:40,460 For me, as a woman, I so get that. 536 00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:46,060 Sutton has been wanting Kyle and I to be close for so long. I would love to go 537 00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:49,540 deeper with you in terms of our friendship. I appreciate that so much. 538 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:55,440 But yet, how am I supposed to be friends with Kyle if she's not going to open up 539 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,259 about everything? 540 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:57,460 We tiptoe around Morgan. 541 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:04,860 We don't know what that situation is. There is no situation there. One day, 542 00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:06,360 will have a great story to share with you guys. 543 00:30:06,910 --> 00:30:07,910 I hope you do. 544 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:12,250 You're just super protective. She's not always been the most amazing friend to 545 00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:16,090 you. I'm not protecting her. But for some reason, your loyalty is beyond. I'm 546 00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:17,870 not protecting her. There is no loyalty. 547 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:22,170 Sutton will always give Kyle a pass. Got it. Good night. 548 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:24,250 Almighty Kyle. 549 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:26,710 I can't. 550 00:30:34,690 --> 00:30:36,170 Okay. Okay. 551 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,740 A lot to unpack there. Let's do it. On Entertainment Tonight, Erica said she 552 00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:44,840 wanted to see Sutton and Garcelle open up more about their real lives. 553 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,440 We want the juicy scoop. 554 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080 Like, what happened? I wish there was. I understand. Like, that's what we're 555 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,600 getting at. I'm not saying that she's not telling us what's happening. No, 556 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,960 because I didn't know what else I would show. I mean, honestly, I work my ass 557 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,060 off. I'm with my children as much as I can. She said she wants to know who 558 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,060 you're dating. You get no... 559 00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:06,630 Yeah. No, not really. Zero? Girl, we got to work on this. I know. Not really. 560 00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:07,990 You should say not really. 561 00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:11,130 There was one guy, like, I went on two dates with. And no nothing, huh? 562 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:15,130 What more do you want to see from me? Yeah, what more do you want? 563 00:31:15,410 --> 00:31:18,370 Like, there's nothing that I'm not showing, honestly. 564 00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:19,650 Do you know something? 565 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:21,630 No, I wish you were more interesting, I guess. 566 00:31:21,930 --> 00:31:22,930 Oh, damn. 567 00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:26,020 What? Well, that's a shitty thing to say, Erica. 568 00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:28,460 I don't know. That's a shitty thing to say. Well, I think you kind of led me 569 00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:31,120 there. That's a shitty thing to say when I was trying, when I thought we were in 570 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,959 a better place. 571 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,280 No, we're not, if you say something like that. I think also, too, like, our 572 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560 experience, my experience, Kyle and Dorit, going through, like, these really 573 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000 ugly public divorces and coming apart. 574 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,960 My divorce happened before I came on the show. But, yeah, I was very open about 575 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,899 it. 576 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:49,940 My issue is that you have said Kyle's not showing us her life. 577 00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:55,290 I've been sowing so much of my life for so long. I've sown for 14 years my 578 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:59,470 relationships with my family, falling out with my family, problems in my 579 00:31:59,470 --> 00:32:02,990 marriage. Going through this separation has been the hardest thing I've ever 580 00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:03,769 gone through. 581 00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:07,590 And then you've said many times, well, why isn't Kyle showing us what's really 582 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:08,590 going on? 583 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:11,390 And you just said, what more do you want me to tell you, Erica? What more can I 584 00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:12,970 show in my life? Yeah, that's how we feel. 585 00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:17,310 I mean, it's been so open and so destroyed. I'm literally tuning the 586 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:20,370 and not even thinking about the cameras being there and just saying exactly what 587 00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:21,370 I'm feeling. 588 00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:27,950 Last year, Morgan was part of the show. We met her. How did you guys meet? She 589 00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:30,070 stopped me. I did. I stopped her. 590 00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:31,690 Here you go. I don't want that kind either. 591 00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:38,630 And all of a sudden, this year, it was like, you weren't going to bring her up. 592 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:42,090 But then there's pictures in the press. There's this in the press. And we're not 593 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:45,010 allowed. We're just supposed to pretend that that's not happening? 594 00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:46,230 Is that reality? 595 00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:50,130 No, that's not. Morgan did not sign up for the show. She does not want to be 596 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:53,090 part of it. She's not a part of the cast. She didn't sign up for the show 597 00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:59,470 season. But she was on before. She came on as a favor to me. What ensued after 598 00:32:59,470 --> 00:33:01,610 that created a lot of anxiety for her. 599 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,000 And she didn't ask for this life. So I'm trying to be respectful of somebody who 600 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,900 didn't sign up for it. You know, your son didn't want to be a part of the show 601 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,460 this season. I respect that. I was actually very hurt by you this season. 602 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,120 I was hurt by you as well. Because you were hurt by me this season? Yes, and 603 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,780 even apologized to me. Which part? 604 00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:22,140 When you called me an asshole in the after show. No, I'm not talking about 605 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:24,460 was after. I called you that because of your behavior. 606 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,820 I was very hurt by you by what I saw on the show. 607 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:32,900 I just felt like we would be hypocrites. Let me just say me. If all this stuff 608 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:36,840 is happening out there and we don't address it, we're going to look like, 609 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,880 are we not addressing this? We're going to look like. So I also had 610 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,300 conversations with you privately. 611 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:46,100 And I never repeated anything you told me. But I explained to you why. Why did 612 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,560 you come to me off camera and talk to me? 613 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,080 Why did you come to me off camera and talk to me? 614 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,160 Because I thought that you're my friend. 615 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:11,920 And what did you say when she walked away after she told us what she told us 616 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,920 camera? 617 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:18,320 I think that Kyle wants to protect Morgan. 618 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:20,699 That's not what you said. 619 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,340 You said that was a chess move. 620 00:34:24,739 --> 00:34:25,739 Mm -hmm. 621 00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:30,260 The thing is with both of you, the two of you together are mean girls. 622 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,620 Hang on. Mean girls, like, that's really shocking to hear that. 623 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,580 How about the fact that when we were in Chuck E. Cheese, we laughed about it, 624 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,580 and I was being completely genuine. 625 00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:44,300 Be whoever you want to be. 626 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,440 If you want to be a lesbian, be a lesbian. 627 00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:54,860 And then you went on the after show, and you were like, she's a... What was 628 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:58,740 really going through my head was, you're being an asshole right now. You said 629 00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:59,740 that intentionally. 630 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600 I didn't. I did not say that. The lesbian comment? Yeah. No. No. 631 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,440 Be who you want to be. Stop worrying about what other people think. 632 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,880 Is that what you think she's doing? Yes. I think it's hard. 633 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,240 You don't think that, first of all, it was said to embarrass me? 634 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:18,460 No. 635 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:21,500 Yes. No. 636 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:23,630 We laughed about it that night. 637 00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:27,390 And I said to you, I don't think you're an asshole, but that was an asshole 638 00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:29,810 move. Okay, you can have your opinion. It's all good. 639 00:35:30,070 --> 00:35:34,290 You repeatedly said you got mad at Sutton for not jumping on the bandwagon 640 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:35,930 you came after me. Well, because he didn't have my back. That's between me 641 00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:38,070 Sutton. That's the thing. But that's between me and Sutton. He didn't have 642 00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:42,430 back to come after me. No, didn't have my back to support me, not come after 643 00:35:42,430 --> 00:35:43,830 you. To support you in coming after me. 644 00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:48,790 Yeah, to come after me and to make me uncomfortable, to put me on the spot, to 645 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:50,790 create an issue with me that you knew that I have... 646 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,180 I told you right out of the gate. And I respected that. The whole season, I 647 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:56,920 respected that. Right out of the gate, and I appreciate that. No, Sutton, no. 648 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,060 Come on. Most certainly did. 649 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:03,580 Come on. No, you did not. I respected her. No, you did not. Her wishes, I did. 650 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:08,040 Her wishes were what? She didn't want to talk about Morgan. She didn't want to 651 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,760 bring that up, and I didn't. You know, if Morgan had not been on the show 652 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,660 prior... then I think it would have been okay if she says, you know what, that 653 00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:18,940 part of my life is off the table. 654 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600 That's not her place. He didn't sign that contract to be here. 655 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:23,618 I did. 656 00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:27,840 Garcelle, you were extra frustrated that Sutton didn't back you up. Do you think 657 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640 that Sutton is obsessed with getting Kyle's approval? 658 00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:32,420 I think... 659 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,260 But Sutton's relationship with Kyle is really important to her. Garcelle, do 660 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:40,080 feel like she has to back you up all the time? Like it's a two thing, but you 661 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,500 can have independent questions, right? Like she doesn't need to come in and 662 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:47,480 support you. No, but I do that for her. I don't need to do it either. It's 663 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,480 called friendship. 664 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:54,120 Okay. But that's the thing. On the boat, when Erica and Sutton got into this 665 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,710 argument. You were silent. Jennifer Tilly was silent. I was silent because I 666 00:36:57,710 --> 00:37:01,110 knew if I said one word, it'd be like, oh my God, she's coming for, she's 667 00:37:01,110 --> 00:37:02,450 sticking up for something. 668 00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,550 You were silent. Jennifer Tilly was silent. The entire boat was silent. 669 00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:10,130 And then you look at me and you say to me, she expected more loyalty from you, 670 00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:15,870 Kyle. And I'm like, because she, this is a joke. Because you're important to 671 00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:16,788 her. 672 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:17,790 That's not my problem. 673 00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:21,370 I mean, you are important to her too. So was Jennifer Tilly. 674 00:37:22,259 --> 00:37:26,940 So in my mind, I'm like, my God, everyone is coming for my ass. Like, 675 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,680 do? What did I do to deserve that? 676 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:31,900 It hurt me. 677 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,200 I'm sorry about that. 678 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,180 I don't know. I was like, who do you trust? 679 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,300 You know, I know that feeling. 680 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,520 It's not nice. 681 00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:44,600 I think that's why I gravitated so much towards Bo's, because she was so real. 682 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,500 I didn't feel I had to question it, ever. 683 00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:53,080 Good. Dorit, how did it feel seeing what Garcelle said about someone 684 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,660 orchestrating the break -in? I really don't understand what the obsession is 685 00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:01,280 about one of the most traumatic things in my life. 686 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,140 Something that I suffered terribly for two and a half years. This was my 687 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:11,220 feeling. This is the last time I'm going to talk about it. I felt like it was a 688 00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:14,820 setup. Because you've not stopped talking about it since it happened, 689 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,320 I've not stopped talking about it. Literally. 690 00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:19,200 You feel it was a setup. Yeah, I do. 691 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,700 I feel how I feel. What am I supposed to do? 692 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,460 It's based on nothing. 693 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,200 No, it's based on me feeling. It's just my instincts. Right, your instinct. 694 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,480 Okay. 695 00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:39,340 There is no evidence or fact or any reason whatsoever for you to draw that 696 00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:43,220 conclusion. Then I'm wrong. Yet, you can say it so casually, not considering 697 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:49,720 once how that might make me, my husband, our family feel whatsoever about 698 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,800 something. How traumatic is that, Garcelle? 699 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:06,880 There is no evidence or fact or any reason whatsoever for you to draw that 700 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,760 conclusion. Yet, you can say it so casually. 701 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,840 I am sorry if it hurts you. This is how I feel. 702 00:39:16,060 --> 00:39:17,060 Wow. 703 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:20,930 I think it's that the guy gave you back the cell phone, if I recall. 704 00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:24,710 Yeah, and she was like, I don't put the alarm on at night because the kids run 705 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:28,750 around. I think most people's alarm, you can put the alarm and be in this home. 706 00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:33,730 You think that I or my husband would orchestrate... I didn't say you or your 707 00:39:33,730 --> 00:39:37,170 husband. Let's just think this through. I didn't say you or your husband. Do not 708 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:39,970 put that in my mouth. I didn't say you or your husband. I just felt like... You 709 00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:42,090 intimated that in the PK. No, I did not. 710 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:43,850 Who else would it be? I did not. 711 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:45,450 I don't know who else it could be. 712 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,150 You intimated. 713 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,980 In that scene, that it was PK. 714 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:53,460 No, I did not. Do not suggest that you did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. 715 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,700 Roll the tape, because I know. 716 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,120 Roll the tape. You did not intimate. I did not. I said, I don't think Dorit 717 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,000 anything about it. You know, when I said last year about her jewelry and the 718 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,080 robbery? Yeah. I don't think Dorit had anything to do with that. Mm -mm. 719 00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:09,760 But I think someone did. 720 00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:13,300 I am done talking about it. 721 00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:19,140 Andy. This is how I feel. So that's fine. But I'm going to at least tell you 722 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:20,980 I feel about what you feel. I know how you feel about it. 723 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,560 My husband, he must be a sociopath and not give a shit about his family 724 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,740 whatsoever. That he would send men into our home at night with my children 725 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:31,900 sleeping in the house. 726 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:35,880 And he would put me through that trauma. Was I the only one that felt that way? 727 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,980 You tell me who else. Your four other people from Twitter? 728 00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:40,260 Oh, my God. 729 00:40:42,140 --> 00:40:46,890 Okay. You know, I think it's a very difficult thing to say without any proof 730 00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:52,070 all. And so saying that has enormous repercussions. I think it's dangerous of 731 00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:57,310 you to say. I think it is actually really, really, really terrible. 732 00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:59,510 Okay. Nothing. Zero. 733 00:41:00,030 --> 00:41:01,030 And I mean zero. 734 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,820 All right. Well, I was going to ask where the two of you stand today, but I 735 00:41:07,820 --> 00:41:12,340 think you took a few steps forward this season and you may have taken a couple 736 00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:14,520 back. We'll see where this goes. 737 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,740 And we are taking lunch. 738 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,840 I'm going to go this way. 739 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:21,380 Can I go home? 740 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:22,740 Everybody hates me. 741 00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,260 What? Like everybody. 742 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,840 I'm going to start to cry. 743 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,500 No, you haven't. It was harder yet. 744 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,140 I thought Seth was going to be in the hot seat. I didn't realize I was going 745 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:33,140 be in the hot seat. 746 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:34,450 Jesus, great. 747 00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:36,150 I can't have an opinion. 748 00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:37,930 I can't say how I feel. 749 00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:41,310 I just have to go along just to go along. 750 00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:43,850 Everybody can go. No, I don't care. 751 00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:48,530 We'll turn it off. I know. That's why before I hope to see... Oh, God. 752 00:41:49,210 --> 00:41:50,210 Hello. 753 00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:57,230 Okay. 754 00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:58,870 Oh, gosh. 755 00:41:59,030 --> 00:42:00,030 How are you feeling? 756 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:01,109 Not great. 757 00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:02,110 What's up? 758 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,860 I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't. I can say how I feel. I can't say 759 00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:07,820 I feel. I have to tiptoe around everybody. 760 00:42:08,060 --> 00:42:09,060 Yeah. I'm not doing it. 761 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100 I'm not doing it. 762 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,960 Discard cell situations. 763 00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,560 Oof. We're not talking about something casual. We're talking about a crime. 764 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:21,780 I know. You can't say those things without repercussions. Thank you. Do you 765 00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:23,080 understand that? Thank you. 766 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,760 I'm the bad guy here. 767 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,420 Oh, no, I think we are. Yeah, we're mean girls, apparently. I mean... Yeah. 768 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,060 Which I don't understand that. I'm not taking that on. 769 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,320 You can say anything you want. I'm not taking it because I know who I am. 770 00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:36,100 Would she be more interesting? 771 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,360 You, Erica. 772 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,800 You. 773 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,960 You. What, because I'm not going through a divorce? Because I'm not, like, I 774 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,700 didn't have, you know, criminal activity? 775 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,320 That I work? That I'm self -made? 776 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,580 Yeah. I don't have a rich husband? 777 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,960 I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth? 778 00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:59,040 That's not interesting? She doesn't have a rich husband. Her. 779 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,800 Her. 780 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,820 Next week, the reunion continues. 781 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400 One of our most decorated friends. 782 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,140 Hi, Jennifer Tilly. You make it sound like I'm covered with medals of valor. 783 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,240 Kathy Hilton. Hi, everybody. 784 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,280 Kathy, you're not going to chew that gum right now. I'm just going to suck on it 785 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,280 for a second. 786 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,800 I've never been accused of being a liar. Well, there were lies, too. 787 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640 You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba. 788 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,480 You live on a main road. 789 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,380 You went back to your room and called PK? 790 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,620 Yeah. Can you wrap your head around how tough that is?